From what you can read here, there are only people with issues with the SKS bus:
That being said, the SKS il vetro is in beta and has a setup guide, so it might work for some people but those probably won’t come here to confirm it I guess.
@Georg_S Maybe you can help us. Now that 6 wire SKS Il Vetro is supported by the opener, is there any chance that DS 2010 will be supported as well?
Unfortunately, the opener button is not recognized in recognition mode? What can I do?
Thanks a lot.
Unfortunately I don’t have any of these systems at hand, but maybe someone with such a system can find out where the corresponding connections on the PCB are. The SKS bus systems are not compatible with the Nuki Opener and can only be operated using the analog workaround, therefore the door opening signal is not recognized.
@Georg_S thank you for your fast reply. Then this is apparently a misunderstanding on my side. My understanding was that SKS Il Vetro (which is already supported by Nuki as beta) is based on the same bus system? This was the reason I bought the opener. Is my assumption wrong?
Can you please push me into the right direction how to finde the corresponding connections on the PCB for the analog workaround.
Thank u so much for your support.
Regards Jörg
@Panda maybe you can help me. I have a SKS DS 2010 and SKS il vetro Audio. How can I find out where to connect the cable on the pcb for the analoge workaround solution.
Second Question: is it easier to connect the cable for the opener button because of the Hardware button? Than will buy one of them.
Thank you for every hint pushing me in the right direction.
Recards Jörg.
You need to do the following:
- Find the cables that go to the speaker. These are directly accessible.
- Find a ground connection pin. This should be marked on the PCB somewhere.
- Find the opener pin. This is the the hardest part. For physical buttons, find the wire on the PCB that goes from the button to the micro controller. For Touch buttons you will need to measure each pin coming from the touch panel going to the micro controller while pushing the door opening button. Measure each pin while pushing the button and see which pin changes with your pushes.
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@Panda Thank you very much for your support and explanation. I have now connected the HT4600 in parallel to my SKS DS 2010, according to your instructions.
However, the HT 4600 does not ring when the button at the frontdoor is pressed. This is completely independent from Nuki (so even before installing Nuki). Therefore the ring-detection did not work. I have solved this now so that the ring detection takes place on the speaker of the DS 2010.
The setup process of Nuki worked like this. However, ring-to-open has an immense delay. partly in the range of minutes. During the setup process ring-to-open is also executed once. There it works - repeatable - well and without delay. Only not in later operation.
Do you have an idea what this could be due to? Is it because of my constellation that I work with 2 intercom? Or do you have other ideas?
Many thanks Jörg
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Please contact @Georg_S if you have trouble with the ring detection. He can help you switch the detection mode.
One thing that might cause detection trouble is if you connected the speaker ground for ring detection.
Thank you so much!
@Georg_S Can you please help me with my trouble with the ring detection. ? Thank you.
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Hi,
I tried the same procedure with my elvox 8879. Opening the door is now possible but I have problems with the ring detection. Can u plz help me too with the configuration of the ring detection? Kindly, Patricia
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Thank u/u too- waiting 4 response…
Hey Georg. What’s the thing you need to do to get ring detection from the speaker line?
Have there been any new developments on “officially” supporting the SKS 2- and 6-wire systems without the analogue workaround? It looks to me that technically only an appropriate wiring adapter (Nuki to through-holes?) would need to be made and the rest should be able to be handled in software? sks is super prevalent in Berlin and other cities
Ok - sounds like a silly question - but my il vertro video looks completely different from the one @Panda mentioned here. I have even trouble finding ground - not even talking about finding the “opener” wire… any clue?
And @Georg_S what do I have to do to get my opener set “free”
And one additional question: i think I found some GND to use - now the tricky part to figure out the opener - it’s a capacitive touch - so what I tried:
Connected voltmeter to gnd and check for voltage on the pins - there was one pin that jumped from 0.6 to 2 V after pushing the opener - but it did the same if the other buttons are being pushed. Any idea how to find the right connection point?
Is it the same with yours @Panda that there is voltage if you push the other buttons? Do I need to ring the bell downstairs to figure out the right pin? (Because of the “open only after ringing” function of Sks?)
It is the 2 Cable il vetro by the way
Check if you get an beep sound if you press the opener button. If not, you will need to ring your door before measuring which pin the opener pin is.
For me, I just measured each pin of the connectors coming from the touchpanel while pushing the button just like you. On one of the pins, you should clearly see a change between 5V and 0V. That is the one to go for. The panel is capacitive touch, but the detection circuit sits in the touchpanel part, so the connector has very clean signals just like an regular button.
Thanks @Panda - ok I think I might figured one … it is at 120 mV and when I push the opener it jumps to 5 V - so far so good.
But still can’t get it to work. I connect all cables - but can’t finish the configuration - it always tells me “configuration failed”.
The bell rings - and ring suppression is working - but it seems Nuki is not registering the input of the ring. The detection is from pcb straight - so no messed polarity.
One strange thing: ring suppression turns down the volume of the ring to almost nothing - but you can still hear it - if turned of it is the full volume.
Is it necessary for @Georg_S to change sth before it even can work?
If ring supression works then Nuki has correctly detected the ring. If not ring supression would not kick in. Also, you can check if it works correct by enabling and disabling it in your settings. If both work as intended, ring detection is wired correctly. Opening happens after the end of ring has been reached. Check if all your wires except orange are connected correctly similar to: SKS HT4600 or BS2012, compatible Nuki Opener - #53 by DominikZ